Forums · Anyone Interested in Forensics and Crime Investigation?
I just wondered how many "super sleuths" we have here at SpiritKeep? Kell and I have been interested in forensics for years. (That is the science for determining the cause of death for someone who did not die of natural causes, and also using these findings as evidence in the investigation of the crime.) This is an interesting science, and one in which methods are getting better all the time.
When they began using DNA, forensic science received a huge "leg up" to determine some very important facts about crimes of various kinds. It has put some criminals behind bars, and has also exonerated several who were innocent of crimes they were serving time for. Another good use of this tool is identification of accident/crime victims who aren't identifiable by any other means.
Without DNA, it's my guess that identification of remains at the WTC would be impossible in most cases. I think that it is great that they can be certain that any remains identified by DNA are going to be given to the correct family. I know that I would feel better about a positive ID having been made on a friend or relative after such a disaster. I think that many others will probably feel the same way.
Do we have any others interested in this area of study?
Just thought I would ask. I do want everyone to understand that the interest I have expressed here is strictly in the clinical aspect, and not for delving into things that are just gross or offensive, or merely for shock value, etc. I have great respect for anyone who works in this field, and if I were younger and in better health, I might even consider a degree in forensics and crime investigation.
azspirit
When they began using DNA, forensic science received a huge "leg up" to determine some very important facts about crimes of various kinds. It has put some criminals behind bars, and has also exonerated several who were innocent of crimes they were serving time for. Another good use of this tool is identification of accident/crime victims who aren't identifiable by any other means.
Without DNA, it's my guess that identification of remains at the WTC would be impossible in most cases. I think that it is great that they can be certain that any remains identified by DNA are going to be given to the correct family. I know that I would feel better about a positive ID having been made on a friend or relative after such a disaster. I think that many others will probably feel the same way.
Do we have any others interested in this area of study?
Just thought I would ask. I do want everyone to understand that the interest I have expressed here is strictly in the clinical aspect, and not for delving into things that are just gross or offensive, or merely for shock value, etc. I have great respect for anyone who works in this field, and if I were younger and in better health, I might even consider a degree in forensics and crime investigation.
azspirit
I think forensics is a fascintating field. On many levels.
There's the challenge to figure the what, where, why, and especially who's for a mystery.
Using logically scientific processes to find facts.
Using your intelligence to outwit the evil or disturbed.
Helping people who have lost a love one to find some peace in either finding their lost love one (as in unidentified remains) or finding their killer or both. It seems most people find it harder to not know what happened to a love one rather than know that they are dead and what happened (no matter how gruesome). And everyone feels better when justice is served. And forensics plays a big part in making sure justice is served. It finds facts and proof. It eliminates questions, possibilities, conjecture,..
One of my favorite, though disturbing, shows is the ones that show cases of where and how forensics have helped to solve cases.
Yes, I think forensics it a great field of study and a great life work.
Too bad you need a doctorate (or two or three) to get into it.
There's the challenge to figure the what, where, why, and especially who's for a mystery.
Using logically scientific processes to find facts.
Using your intelligence to outwit the evil or disturbed.
Helping people who have lost a love one to find some peace in either finding their lost love one (as in unidentified remains) or finding their killer or both. It seems most people find it harder to not know what happened to a love one rather than know that they are dead and what happened (no matter how gruesome). And everyone feels better when justice is served. And forensics plays a big part in making sure justice is served. It finds facts and proof. It eliminates questions, possibilities, conjecture,..
One of my favorite, though disturbing, shows is the ones that show cases of where and how forensics have helped to solve cases.
Yes, I think forensics it a great field of study and a great life work.
Too bad you need a doctorate (or two or three) to get into it.
We probably watch all of the same shows! It is amazing how many things can yield clues. Even the lowly maggot can tell a rather precise story. The one thing about these shows, is I think that more people need to watch them, and find out exactly how difficult it is becoming to "get away with murder"! Don't these perpetrators even realize that it is next to impossible, if not impossible, to commit such a crime without leaving a few clues behind? It isn't just about fingerprints anymore... that's for sure!
azspirit
azspirit
I saw one show where they had this suspect who they believed killed a woman . But they had no evidence whatsoever. No witnesses, hair, blood, fabric, etc... nothing. But they found a bite mark on the victim. Apperantly during the struggle the perp. bit the victim. So they had a mold made up based on the bite mark and it matched the bite of the suspect. Based upon this evidence he was convicted.
Well it's a good thing if someone watches these shows and decides not too because they might get caught, but it really depends on the personality. Someone make take it as a challenge. Learn what not to do and not make any mistakes big enough to get caught.
I think it really depends on whether someone is has the disposition to do it. I think anyone is capable of killing another human being under the right(or should I say wrong) circumstances. But to commit murder, they would end up doing it anyway if they were going to do it. Either in excitement or premeditated. But there are all kinds of people on this planet.
Well it's a good thing if someone watches these shows and decides not too because they might get caught, but it really depends on the personality. Someone make take it as a challenge. Learn what not to do and not make any mistakes big enough to get caught.
I think it really depends on whether someone is has the disposition to do it. I think anyone is capable of killing another human being under the right(or should I say wrong) circumstances. But to commit murder, they would end up doing it anyway if they were going to do it. Either in excitement or premeditated. But there are all kinds of people on this planet.
I too have a great interest for this kind of thing. My father was a policeman and I am always curious. I remember when I worked in the library and would find a book about an unsolved case. It would always interest me and I would be reading instead of shelving. Ooops!. We have a few out here in Ohio. The Famous Sam Sheppard Case which still isn't solved and a few others. I have always been interested in them. The royal family of the Czar is another one that interests me. Jack the ripper always interested me. I bet we do watch all the same shows.. I like the FBI files too.
Supersleuth wantabe
Mary
Supersleuth wantabe
Mary
Mary,
I saw a show a few months back that said that they know what happened to the Czars family. They dug up a mass grave that had bones in it I believe they genetically/DNA matched as the royal family. I don't remember the exact details but if I remember correctly they believe that one is solved.
I saw a show a few months back that said that they know what happened to the Czars family. They dug up a mass grave that had bones in it I believe they genetically/DNA matched as the royal family. I don't remember the exact details but if I remember correctly they believe that one is solved.
The Czars and Jack the Ripper have always facsinated me too, Mary. I still don't know if I'm satisfied with the conclusion it was a Polish butcher, in the Ripper case. :no:
Remember there was a lady who claimed to be the youngest daughter of the Czars - Anastasia - supposedly survived the mass murder of her family? I think they compared her ears with the ears of the real Anastasia in a photo and ruled her a fraud! :crazy:
Kell
Remember there was a lady who claimed to be the youngest daughter of the Czars - Anastasia - supposedly survived the mass murder of her family? I think they compared her ears with the ears of the real Anastasia in a photo and ruled her a fraud! :crazy:
Kell