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azspirit

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Feb 5 '02

Bird, I hope that things will start to improve for you! That mirror could be part of the problem! Mirrors are strange about death.... in the old days, they used to drape all the mirrors in the house to keep the spirit of the deceased from going into the mirror. Interesting thought.....

azspirit
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Birdsister

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Feb 6 '02

AZ, I owe you a big apology on your post about Doc I said I would send you Reiki then with the stuff going on here and being exhausted I got busy and forgot!!! I'm so sorry!

Last night was better but my sleep was still disrupted and it sounded like someone mumbled Annalee. I'm still seeing movement but the work we did wasn't to keep everyone out, only to keep the negative stufuf out. I didn't want to keep the civil war soldiers from the battlefield I visit out or any thing high vibration and good. I guess that sounds silly. I could have sealed the place up tight against all ghosts, I guess. But I didn't want to miss out on anything positive even though I probably would be more relaxed! LOL

I have had a couple things disappear and come back. Not *POOF* but lost a sock at my Mom's house and about 12 hours later get out of a chair and I'm sitting on it at my house. That's after I changed clothes, bathed went to the grocery, did the cleansing with my friend, changed again, went to bed and got up. So it wasn't stuck to my behind! Also I brought Ted a toy from the store and placed it in his favorite spot while he was asleep on the couch. I then got on the computer, got offline and went to get the toy to play with him. It was gone and Ted was still asleep. I thought maybe he got up and I missed it, so I searched all over, went outside, came back in and it was where I had originally put it. I searched all over that spot before going outside!

Because I've been so stressed I may overreact now to any messages/visits as if they were threatening....so if the handsome civil war soldier visits me again I don't want to react negatively. LOL Imagine a floating head of a handsome man with long, golden brown hair and a beard, blue eyes, and a beautiful smile in your bedroom one night. ;-)
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Connie

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Feb 6 '02

Bird,
I'm curious, I can see why you wouldn't want to ban good energy from your house - "sealed the place up tight" as you say. Could you "seal up" just one room - Maybe a spare bedroom? If that's possible, you'd have a refuge when you're being bothered and you could put your pets in there when you have to leave so they'd be unaffected.
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sundog

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Feb 6 '02

Quite possibly you have opened yourself up a bit too much. you have also had a lot of stress and illness in your life. The combination of these things can cause open doors to the unseen that normally would remain shut. Believe me- been there- have that t-shirt!

Well, you are in a pickle but as with all things it is fixable.

Right now the worst thing you can do is to be involved with anything spiritual- period! No metapysical reading and no reiki for everyone around you. You need to close it up big time and quickly. entertain yourself with nonsense like funny shows or movies.Trite stuff is good medicine here. Heavens- do not take a drink or anything else! This doesnt just open doors it will cause them to crash open.

Do another big cleansing if it makes you feel better.Personally I would not even acknowledge their power with one.If I was a crazy-making energy sucking spirit I am afraid that all the sea salt and all the sage smudging in the world would only make me laugh. Are you open or are you closed- it really is as simple as that. Eat meat-especially red meat-lots of it right now. it will ground you out but too many veges will open you up more.

Start closing yourself down now! As long as you are "open for business" you'll have all sorts of spiritual pararsites around you- sucking your energy away and making you nuts!

You have to know where to draw the line for your own inner peace.

Things like this have happened to me before and in the end I realized that I was the one who opened the door and let em all in.

sundog
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Birdsister

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Feb 6 '02

Where have YOU been, Sundog? I was about to send you a message and I saw a reply to this topic and I popped in to find out it was you! AND I had just sent a friend a email that I was going to play music of a high vibration today, watch something funny on tv and try to just do fun stuff and think positive thoughts. It is kind of hard when you're all alone to throw a "party" though! LOL I was told not to give "it" attention so I don't really even look around the room now just in case. Things are better. Possibly it is weakening?? I still get anxious at bedtime.

Well, I had to make some special prayer ties as part of the cleansing and hang them over the doors with the intention in them that nothing negative could come in. I have a special one over my bedroom door so that's an idea. I could adjust that one or one in a certain room to allow nothing in but then my beautiful "angel" lights might not want to come in. I have to give this some thought.
I do dream interpretations almost everyday. When my computer was out I had twentysome waiting and crashed in and did a lot over a week, however the problems began when I wasn't doing any, since the computer was down. So that doesn't seem connected. So taking a break from that wouldn't seem to fit since that's what I was doing when it started.

Thing is when I start to fall asleep it wakes me and I'm not doing anything then! So I wake up fall, asleep over, and over then give up and get up. What can you do when you're asleep, ya know???
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nakis

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Feb 7 '02

Somtimes things just happen without rhyme or reason. At least seemingly so. That is nothing you have done recently or what you were doing at the time had anything to do with it. Sometimes.
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Birdsister

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Feb 7 '02

Well, my friend told me I need to stay here, home that is, at night and set boundaries but my instinct is telling me to sleep at my mother's and without me here to feed off of it may dissapate and move on. Kind of like leaving because it's no fun anymore, nothing to feed off of. Usually my intuition is right on but she IS a medicine woman after all. So myabe I'll talk to her about how I feel. I stay here alot in the day and try to do really positive stuff like cleaning and washing things, playing music, reading funny stuff and so on.

You know I started thinking I had caused it by doing the dream interpretations because some people would say that's a form of divination and "evil." What I do is pray to the Creator for guidance and work on the symbolism in the dreams to help the person solve problems. I don't predict the future although sometimes I can tell if things are improving for them by the dream imagery. Sometimes I get images that I couldn't know, like see them somewhere or get a kind of feeling about something to help them. So deep down I feel like i'm doing good but one of my Cherokee grandmother's was a Baptist and then a Pentacostal so she used scare tactics on me as a child. She'd tell me the devil would come up through the floor and get me if I told a lie, etc. I was only 5 then!! She didn't even want people to know she was Native. (The other side of my family was Cherokee too but VERY proud of it.) Anyway I think the old stuff creeps up to scare and guilt me. Like I start thinking I brought it on my self. That's why I had to redo my whole spirituality and remeet God in a Cherokee way and give up the idea of the punishing man, who incidently I had in my "earth" father too. When I redid my belief of God then I remet Jesus in another way too, as a teacher of Love. So that's why my beliefs are a blend. I still have to battle those deep fears from childhood. I had a horrible fear of demons and was practically traumatized by that stuff. Sorry this turned into self analysis! This is a very safe board to do it on though!
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Birdsister

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Feb 7 '02

I've been so stressed my hair is falling out and my eyelid is twitching! so I think I'll stay at Mom;'s again tonight.

At home today I am washing sheets and hanging them out in the sun even though it's cold. Seemed like the water was cleansing and the sun is good energy.

Mom is coming around in her acceptance since I told her about the medicine woman's experiences. She was drained when she left here. She was also ice cold! She could feel the spots that I had described without me telling her where to go. She could feel what I was seeing so it was enough to substantiate what I had said.

If anyone wants me to I'll post about some of our cleansing rituals so you can try them too. Some of them you'd have to be trained for others I think you can use.
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KellKell

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Feb 7 '02

Poor Bird. =( Well, I do agree with the medicine woman about staying there and setting boundries - not letting them push you out of your own home. But at the same time, I can understand not being able to stay there alone when things are this spooky! Do what you feel is best.

Yes, please, share some of the cleansing techniques that would be safe for untrained people to perform. This could be very helpful! I can also put them up on the website for future reference, if that's alright. =)

Kell
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Birdsister

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Feb 8 '02

I am so scared and sleepless that I'm going to take time off from everything paranormal. Last night I was spending the night at Mom's and reading about binding evil spirits, when I read about Jesus doing this something made a loud noise like, "ZZZHHHHH!" and I felt my ears plug up except for this roaring and I felt my eyes roll back. I got really dizzy and could barely sit up. My head started to feel a rush from bottom to top and started to burn on the top of my head! It scared the you know what out of me. My Mom started saying, What's wrong with you???" So it's not gone completely but I just about am. So I may be off the boards for a while. I hope you understand! The weird part is I had heard this same sound in bed one night a long time ago.

As for the cleansing in the Native tradition, one of the things we did was make prayer ties and hang them over the doors with your intention in them. You put tobacco in them and your prayer. Use colored small squares of cotton cloth and string them together. Put them above all the outside doors. The colors are significant. I used Cherokee directional colors and purple for spiritual protection. I made seven ties of red, white, yellow, black, green, blue, and purple. Use your intuition for any other colors. Another thing is after you smudge take that ash and line the windowsills and the bottom of the doorways. You're welcome to use this. Some of the other things you'd have to be trained to do so I can't help you there. Put a glass bowl of water under your bed and each morning send it down the toilet too. I am keeping a pipe for grounding. So that one you might not be able to do or the cleansing and ritual she did with a wing and staff. That's her sacred stuff.

I am going to take my time off now so know I love you all I just need to get a grip here!
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KellKell

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Feb 9 '02

Ok, Birdsister. I know you're already off the boards, but my thoughts and prayers are still with you and we hope to hear from you as soon as all of this is cleared up. Good luck! Thanks for the cleansing info too!

Love,
Kell
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