Tim went to Wal-Mart yesterday in the evening. When he came out of the store, he could see the car, it was parked in the first row facing the store. He saw a man, leaning in the driver's side of the car, he started making his way, the man left, Tim thought maybe the man wasn't sure if this was his car or not, he looked lost.
Tim gets to the car, sees that his can of cream soda is moved onto the seat neatly when it had been in the middle console, and that a dime was missing.
So ok Tim thought, nice life, the old man ripped me off a dime and was thirsty. He was curious though so got in the car and followed the old man, who was walking aimlessly. When he got to the end of the parking lot, Tim parked the car, got out and went to the doors of another store, where he stood and watched. Out of thin air, the man disapeared. Tim searched for him, even asked someone else who'd been standing there and no one saw the old man.
Tim always tries to find logic in things and last night when he finally told me about this, he was acting very strange, he was confused about this old man, it was really bothering him, you know when you feel driven toward someone, or away from someone but you're not sure why?
I said well you got ripped off, no wonder you're upset and he said it wasn't that. So I said "You got ripped off by a ghost!" thinking he would laugh at that but he didn't! He agreed with my comment!
He was very pensive and told me that he looked like the old man we saw at the graveyard a few times. This specific old man was at the entrance of the graveyard, and we drove to the far end of the graveyard to tend to Tim's father plot, I had enough time to get out of the van, walk 2 steps toward Mike's grave and when I turned around, I saw the old man, standing across the road, looking at us! There was no way humanly possible this man could have walked the distance from the entrance of this huge cemetary to the end where we were parked! That happened a few times, the last time, we tried to talk to him and he vanished through some stones.
So did he vanish through some cars this time? In a busy Wal-Mart/Sears parking lot?

[ September 28, 2002, 12:46 AM: Message edited by: KellKell ]

That is pretty bizarre! It would be interesting to know if anyone else in the area has had a similar experience, or to see if he shows up again.

mmmmm... creepy! Um, when Tim saw him at Walmart and the times you've seen him at the graveyard.... was the old man wearing the same clothes every time?

As far as where he vanished, I'm thinking that could have been anywhere - wouldn't have to be into the cars necessarily.

Kell

Actually Tim and I talked about that (the clothing) today and when I described what I remembered him wearing at the cemetary, Tim said it was indeed the same clothing at Walmart.
It's nothing fancy, it looks like old work clothes, a greyish pair of pants and a dirty shirt. Looks like clothes my grandfather wore while working on the farm... strange indeed.

OOOH Nancy, I've been stalked before, but never by a ghost! I'd have to set up camp at the graveyard & wait for him,lol.
Maybe He's an angel in disguise looking after you. Well I don't know why an angel would steal a dime though. Oh well, I give up!!!
Tess

::choke:: That's very similar to what I envisioned him wearing... kinda drab & grungy looking work-type clothes. Grey pants (khaki??) and the shirt is actually a pale or faded uh, plaid? How do I explian this - it's not a heavy plaid.. just very light lines.
He has a hunched back (hence, narrow shoulders) and scoots when he walks too.

That's what I see!

Kell, I don't mean to be rude here but how the heck did you see that? That's exactly what I saw the shirt like!!!

This "man" has salt 'n pepper hair, very shaggy, short enough though, basically looks like he hasn't combed it or washed it in a while.
I was going to write in the initial post that his shirt was like plaid but since it's very dirty, it's difficult to see, the color under the crud could be yellow or yellowed white if you know what I mean. He's got a very "low" pot belly, the pants are a mix of khaki and grey, well, the knees and the butt is completely grey, almost white from being faded.

What the heck can I make of this? When we first saw him at the cemetary, the very first time, we just thought he was one of the bums that sits at the beer store trying to get money to buy a bottle and then goes someplace quiet to drink it... no place quieter than a graveyard right?
I just don't get this...
While Tim was getting dressed after his shower to go to work, we heard a noise, he asked me if I threw something, I hadn't and so we looked around in the hallway... turns out we found something, 2 small pieces of drywall that fell from upstairs (we can tell based on the fact that they were placed in the stairs). The pieces were placed in a cross like a crucifix... Weird!

What would you all make of this activity? This "man", etc. I need guidance on this one, it's very strange!

Uh, I guess you could say I see dead people! Really though - for some reason, I can just see these things sometimes.

Um, I also saw red lines in the plaid, along with yellow. I think the background color of the shirt is supposed to be white, but it's very thin/worn and well, dirty. When I said khaki, I was more referring to a style of pants - like old man pants. I think that's what they're called!? Anyhow, I see them as a more medium grey, but I don't really see the faded to white on the knees and butt, as you do. Bit of a pot belly though, yes. Slouchy posture. Scrappy hair, yup. I also see a hat - looks like one of those beach hats? Or fishing cap, I guess some might call it?

I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps he's attracted to Tim for some reason? I really don't know, Nancy, but I don't think he's anything to worry about. I do find it rather odd that he'd show up at Walmart when you normally see him at the graveyard though. Hey - since you've successfully seen him at the graveyard on more than one occasion, why don't you take the camera along next time and take some pics - even if you do or do not see him. Take pics in the areas where you've seen him before and see what comes up.

Kell

I'll do that Kell, we have to go there to burlap our cedars in the next few weeks so I'll have a chance to snap some pics...

is it possible that maybe this person was related to your husband or his father, or maybe worked with your husbands father?

Man that's creepy!

That could be a possibility dl... Tim's dad died in 1969 when Tim was 8 mths old. He didn't know any men from that side of the family, just his precious Nanny (grandmother) who's passed.

Does Tim have a history of strange things happening to him? Like throughout his childhood he had felt, seen, heard strange things.
I get the suspicion that Tim is being lead to be more open in his intuition and to be more open and sensitive.
Just now when I reread what I wrote so far I saw a statement instead of a question for the first sentence. 'Tim has a history of strange things happening to him.'

His accident, seeing this male ghost, the things happening at your old house, at your new house, seems indicative of a change in how you see things.
I keep wanting to say that it seems that Tim is being ushered into changing his awareness about the world around him. That this change in how he sees things is not just for his benefit but for you and the girls. Maybe just so Tim will be open and accepting for strange things that may happen or him having a more direct role. I think it's both.
Maybe you didn't marry Tim for just how he looks in a pair of jeans

Good point, Nakis. I think men in general are conditioned by society to be less intuitive and consequently less open to spiritual things. It could be that all of this stuff that has gone on in order to serve as a "spiritual wake-up call" for Tim.
Nancy, didn't you mention at one time that Tim was a non-believer in the paranormal when some of this started out? Sounds like that is changing!

Yes Carrie, I had said he was a non-believer...
I'm not sure I understand completely what you mean, maybe my brain's a bit fussy but the way I see what you're saying is that "things" are happening to make Tim just plain ole' be more aware?
The night he had the accident, he paid attention to the overwhelming sense of FEAR that came over him as he was getting onto the road, after the movie. That wasn't where he should have worried, it was at the next light! I guess he needs practice to sorta tweak these experiences?
Am I getting this right?
I think maybe in this respect, the man appeared to us both at the same time twice to put us both on the same page about the spirit world?
He doesn't want to pick up the inquest again though, into his father's death. He mentioned that last night before going to work. Maybe someone's trying to prevent that? or make it happen?

From everything I've read here..I don't think this old scruffy guy is just any common ghost. He has appeared to you more than once and no one else seems to see him. Have you considered that he might be a spirit guide or play some other signifigant spiritual role in your life? The mere fact that he looks and dresses like a stew bum makes me think that this is only to throw you off...to test you and your preconcieved ideas of what spirit guides or even "Angels" are supposed to look like. In other words, he is teaching you that looks are so often decieving and what might look so common and dirty and street-ordinary on the outside could be shining and immortal on the inside..there is way more to "Him" than meets the eye.

I'm not sure about that. The first time we saw him, he stared at us funny. We were afraid of him. We were in our van and I remember that we locked the doors immediately...
I guess because of that first instinct, I've been sort of spooked by this "guy".

Those are very good points everyone has made. I wonder too if the man may not be a spirit guide...

Nancy, I also wanted to add, if it hasn't been mentioned here, that brain injuries, seizures and the like, can often end up causing a person to have heightened sensitivities. I say this because of my own experience, as well as knowing of incidents with others.

That, plus plain ol' growing older, we seem to open up more.

Maybe the combination is what's making it happen for Tim? Just a thought.

Kell

Just consolidating some threads here. -Kell
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Author Topic: HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

Mama_BearX2
Kindred Spirit
Member # 74
posted September 26, 2002 11:08 AM                      
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Yesterday afternoon, Tim and I were outside with Emily. He was working on the truck and all of a sudden, we saw a bunch of cop cars going up the street... Tim went in the back, climbed on the mountain to see what was going on. The only thing he saw was, THAT MAN AGAIN!
He was on the lower part of the mountain staring right at Tim.
Problem being, this is spooking the living hell out of Tim and last night, he was paranoid. He said he saw a shadow in the kitchen, he got mad when he thought I didn't believe him (of course I did)... well he finally got to sleep and started to snore... I can't fall asleep to his snoring so I nudged him, at that time, he mumbled "You called for Christ but he's not here now"
What's going on here?
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Jeannie
Seeker
Member # 156
posted September 26, 2002 11:49 AM                
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Momma Bear, seems there are a number of things going on. Tim's growing awareness of his sixth sense and the conflict it is causing him. His comment when you woke him up seems to be his talking to himself.
As for his spirit, I really do believe he means no harm. The fact that he goes out of his way to appear in so many places and the little ways he has of getting attention. He wants to be heard and seems to be trying to be as non threatening (walmart and sodas) as an entity can be. Tim should acknowledge him and politely ask him what he wants.
Tim should realize that you and others do believe him.
Good luck (and white light) to you both.
Jeannie
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Carrie
Magnolia Blossom
Queen
Member # 30
posted September 26, 2002 02:40 PM                       
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I'm in agreement with Jeannie. I think more than likely, Tim's comments in his sleep may have been directed at himself. (I would have been pretty spooked too upon first hearing it). I think he has experienced so much lately that he may be having some trouble handling it. I'm even wondering if this spirit he has been seeing may be some sort of protective spirit. It seems interesting that he was seen when some sort of disturbance was going on nearby.
I know this may sound a little odd, and there is a good chance that Tim would fight it, like a lot of men would; but, have you thought about having him talk to someone who was a sensitive, medium, etc...? I can't help but think someone who shares this ability could provide him some guidance in dealing with this.
Is it possible the car wreck he was in left him more "open"? I have heard of life threatening events like that opening some sort of psychic door in some people. This may be the case with Tim.