I have a question that has got me puzzled. First of all I must say that I am somewhat a skeptic here, but I've now got one eye brow raised..lol. I was reading about haunted locations that you can go to and decided over the weekend to grab two of my friends and head out to a site and see if anything happens and to my surprise some really strange things did happen. We went out to Denton Bridge out in Canton, Michigan. The story is that back in the 1800's a man found his wife with another man. He killed the guy and the wife took their son and hid under this bridge. The husband found them, killed them both and then I guess he killed himself as well. But anyway, I've heard many different things, like you will hear a baby crying, a woman shushing the child, you will also see a light out in the field which is suppose to be the husbands latern. You will also see a set of headlights that will follow you and then just vanish. Some of those things did happen when we visited the bridge. But the thing that really puzzles me is my friend brought his cell phone with us so that we could record any strange noises that we might here. The cell phone is disconnected. We got back to our town and there was 8 messages on his phone.(we couldn't get the phone to record anything out there). One of the messages just happen to be a woman shushing a child and another was a woman saying "all done" then she screams and then we hear the baby crying. I guess after this long post I should get to my question..lol, Can spirits actually record their voice on a cell phone?? Could anyone help me out on this one?? Thanks

Hi Rabbit!
I grew up not far from the Denton Rd Bridge. I used to be just a 1.5 lane wooden bridge for years, but building in the area its not so country anymore. Now its a 2 lane concrete bridge.
I went there numerous times. Yes, I have heard the young woman trying to sush the baby.
The murder did happen, but it was more in the early 1900's and was covered in a newspaper in Dearborn.
The man after killing her lover went looking for her and found her under the bridge, killing her and the child.
Now, I have seen the lantern, the headlights, heard the "sush" and a baby cry. But I have never heard anyone have little footprints on their car.
Also, what happens alot is kids go out there and get scared, kids have been killed an car accidents on the road (friends of mine) and yes it is very haunted.
Even now with the new bridge, the haunting continues.
Everyone always loves to go there, but I feel its such a place of sadness?
There are a few other places in the area that are haunted, like I said it's right where I grew up.
What you seen or heard has been seen or heard by many. Alot of people see nor hear a thing and others go crazy when they do? So?
Story is true! Spooked ya huh? I was just a kid when I first went there LOL!
Toodles!
Piggster
:banana: cha cha

Yeah it did spook me because I have never had anything like this happen before. It's a spooky yet sad place to visit. I'm still confused about the cell phone thing though. I felt really strange when we went out there almost like a sick yet nervous/shaking feeling on the inside. But I think that was just because of the stories I read before hand. I see all those newly built houses out there and I just don't see how they could live there knowing what had happened (if they do know that is). I would be so paranoid...lol

Hi Rabbit,
Well I think that maybe some life around the area isn't a bad thing.
Geeze, now that you've seen where we all had our beer bashes and such in HS and college? We kind of hung out in the country.
Yes, tons of over priced houses going up. Canton has been booming for 20 years now.
I just keep thinking, when I see postings on other boards about Denton Rd. as I am sure thats where you found it, that some life of the living will do the land good.
I also don't think its haunted, but more of a terrible imprint that has lasted a century.
Wayne was a city then, but nothing was written up about it. Tons of years ago, I did find something in the Dearborn Library on Michigan Avenue.
Good Luck in your search. Let me know if you find out anymore, anything new k?
Thanks!
Piggster

Were you using the cell phone as a voice recorder? It's possible to record "sounds" on a recording device that aren't necessarily audible to the person doing the recording. It's called EVP (Electronic Voice Print or something like that). Do a web search on EVP (or even here) and I'm sure you'll find tons of information.

Researchers pick up voices on tape recorders all the time. I've never heard of using a cell phone for this purpose, but if it has a voice recorder feature on it I don't see why it couldn't pick up EVP as well.

Wow, that's pretty spooky! Yes, I agree with Kevin - if the cell phone has a message recording feature, I don't see why you'd not be able to pick up an EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon).

Did you say the phone was turned on or off during the visit to the bridge?

Kell

Hi Wabbit!
How long does your cell phone hold recordings? Mine only holds them for 10 days so you might want to check into getting them transferred somehow. I don't know anyone that ever got a recording off Denton.
Pig

Clear something up for me please.

1. You heard nothing while you were there - True/False.
2. The cell record feature recorded nothing while you were there - True/False.
3. When you returned home, the cell's voice mail contained "a woman shushing a child and another was a woman saying "all done" then she screams and then we hear the baby crying" - True/False.

I agree with Peg, this sounds like a residual haunting, which is a repeating emotional event that does not interact with current witnesses.

[ September 23, 2003, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: Connie ]

The phone was disconnected but he has a recording feature on there and we decided to bring that along since we didn't have a tape recorder or anything. Even though he terminated his service plan, he is still able to use the recording features and others as well. We couldn't get the recording feature to work out there, but when we got back into town it showed that he had 8 new voice mail messages. We did have the cell phone turned on while we were out there. The only noises that we actually heard while we were out there was some sort of banging noise..like metal against metal, we also heard what sounded like someone walking in the woods coming towards us. The voice mail message did contain a woman shushing a child, while another voice mail message had a woman saying "all done" she then screams and then the baby starts to cry. I'm not sure how long he is able to save the messages on his phone, but I was able to record the messages onto my computer at home, because he felt uncomfortable leaving the messages on his phone. I hope I was able to answer everyones questions, if not then I will be more than happy to answer them. Thanks for all the replies and I will check into that EVP and see if I can find anything out on there as well. =)

I'd say that is way cool and the cell phone did work, just not in the way you expected.

Since you've kept a copy of the sounds on your computer, please try to e-mail them to Kell because I know we'd all love to hear them.

In most EVPs, you don't actually hear the voice until the recorder is played back. Since the recorder shouldn't record something that isn't audible to the human ear, I've always thought that the spirit manipulates the recording device in some way. But this raises a question for me, if this is a residual haunting, which I've always believed not to involve the actual spirit but more of a mindless emotional imprint on an area, how can an "emotional imprint" manipulate the recording device?


[ September 24, 2003, 05:24 AM: Message edited by: Connie ]

I posted my thoughts on how EVP works in another thread a few weeks ago, but as for getting EVP in a residual haunting, perhaps it's because the imprint affects the electromagnetic fields around the device and causes "sounds" to be picked up and recorded. In essence, the device is acting as an antenna, picking up and taking a recording of the imprint as it plays itself out, like recording a song off the radio.

Maybe you should go out there again and see if you can get more recordings. And then compare them to see if it's the same sounds, or different. That would tell you if it's residual (playing over and over), or if it interacts with the environment.

Here is the thread[/URL] I responded to some time ago about EVP.

KJP

[ September 24, 2003, 06:30 AM: Message edited by: Kevin P ]

i have to ask this if your friend terminated his cell phone service then how could your friend access his voice mail???? the reason i ask this is because when i had my phone suspended i couldnt reach my voice mail at all it would just send me to customer service and if your saying that he could get his when his cell phone plan was terminated it makes me a little skeptical

Damien, I think Rabbit was referring to a voice recording feature built into the phone itself, not voice mail service through the cellphone provider.

My phone has a feature similar to this, where it can answer calls and record messages digitally into the phone's memory if you don't answer it. Basically an answering machine built into the phone. This differs from voice mail, which is provided by the service provider and is independent of the phone, and can take messages when the phone is off. If Rabbit's phone has the recording feature and it can do memo recording (where you press a button and talk into the phone, and it records it as a message), then it could be used for EVP recording as well.

KJP

ok, but she said they couldnt get it to work and that there were 8 new voicemails on the phone. i myself dont know how the voice recorder on cell phones work i never used one, but from what was posted i still dont understand. maybe she could elaborate a little more about it. cause i am still a little skeptical. not as much as before but still a little skeptical just because of the fact that she said the phone had 8 new voicemail messages (i dont know if she meant something else or not) and the fact that they couldnt get the recorder to work out there (which could be paranormal in and of itself).

I know with my phone, I bought 300 minutes that I could stretch out for a year at which time I would have to buy more minutes. Now, if I use all my minutes, I can't make or receive a call but I still have the voice mail feature that I can access from any phone so if someone calls my cell, I don't loose the message.

Yeah, I am changing my plan. I can only store messages for 10 days, but I also am able to record and whatever?
Anyways, if Kell gets those recordings, I absolutely have got to hear them.
This place is somewhere near and dear to my childhood and my heart. I know that sounds odd but it is how I feel.
It would be a first as far as anyone in the area knows about to date.
Please let me know Wabbit!
Thanks,
Piggie
=)
P.S. I told my brother and he is amazed!

A little info on EVP....
EVP is the recording of a voice that is outside the frequency range the human vocal cords are capable of producing. The human vocal cords are capable of producing frequencies from 300HZ to 3000HZ, any voice captured on a recording that is outside of that range is classified as an EVP. The human ear can hear sounds in the frequency range of 20HZ to 20000HZ. armed with that info you may think..."Ok, if an EVP was recorded at 150HZ why didn't i hear it as it was being recorded?" The answer to that is simple. The majority of EVP's recorded are at a very low audio level, they are simply too quiet for you to hear but not too quiet for the recording device to pick up. This is the case with most EVP's, not all EVP's... we have recorded voices that come across the recording right over top of someone talking. Why is this happening? I believe the EVP is using the living person's voice as a resonant frequency to amplify itself. Everyone's voice is distinct, what makes your voice different from someone else's is a resonate frequency or a tone your voice generates when you talk. Soundwaves have what are known as mirror frequencies, in other words, a tone that can be heard at 1200HZ also generates a waveform at a much lower frequency, one that the human ear is incapable of hearing...if the EVP is occurring on that mirror frequency it will amplify itself on the resonate frequency or the frequency that is audible to the human ear. what do you need to record EVP's? any kind of recording device will work from a full featured recording studio to a cellphone's memo feature. we use digital voice recorders with external mics for our EVP recording and also a laptop computer that we record directly on. I hope i was able to answer some questions! =)

Rick

This is the whole thing that makes me wonder. There was no service to this phone, which to me would mean that you can't receive or call out on the phone which also says to me that you are not able to listen to any of the voice mail messages that have been sent to you. Which makes me a little skeptical myself. I was so skeptical that I tried calling his phone and even calling out from his phone and it says that the number is no longer in service. Now on my cell phone, it's the same way, if my service is disconnected then I can't access my voice mail. I'm really new to all this and I just don't get it. I'm thinking maybe it's just something that is unexplained. I am going to grab a friend and get an actual tape recorder and then head back out there the weekend after next and see what I can't come up with and I will let you guys know the out come of it. Rick, thanks for the info, I'm looking into this EVP thingy. Since I am still new to this site, how do I get a hold of Kell so that I can email her these recordings? And Peg if you want I can email them to you as well and anyone else that would like to hear them. Any kind of opinion on these will definitely help me out. Thanks to all who replied.

i would be intersested in hearing them my e-mail is srdamien99@yahoo.com thanx

Damien, I will do that first thing in the morning when I get home from work. I don't have any stored here on this computer.