These 2 photographs were sent in by Sneaky, a new member. I must say, I'm usually quite skeptical of any TV/computer monitor ghost photos, but I find this one intriguing.

Sneaky writes:

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So you are saying ~ when you took the second pic the older gentleman who is in the 1st distorted pic was still what you were seeing on the TV screen? & then after you had the pics developed that child was on there? ~ If so,that's really freaky!

I think what happened is he was watching a show on the History Channel and snapped the first pic (has the man in it) and realized the flash needed to be on to show his work station better, so he snapped a second pic. It wasn't until he looked at the pics later (I believe these are digital) that he noticed the boy on the TV screen.

Hi yall... Sneaky is my nephew... I told him about the site because he really has some interesting photos to share. I put the tv pic of the lil boy in EZ Viewer on my pc when he sent it to me and zoomed in on the image. It actually looks as if the boy's finger is pressed into the screen and an aura of light is around it. The look in the child's eyes is not what I would call "happy" either. Sneaky seems to be one of those people who attract the paranormal for sure. Anomalies show up in almost every photo taken with him in it, or taken by him. And another note of interest... he is living in the same house in which my mom and I had used a Quija board 20 years ago... and odd things have been heard in the house off and on ever since. But seems more prevalent since Sneaky has moved in. I wrote about the Ouija board incident in one of the other posts the other day.

Wow,that's amazing! Thanx so much for sharing!

Was the TV on in the 2nd picture? It looks to me like it's just what the TV was showing at the time. The reason it doesn't fill the entire screen is because the shutter time was shorter in the flash picture (less than 1/60 of a second), during which the electron beam had only scanned part of the picture across the tube. Notice also that the computer monitor is only showing an image at the top half of the screen, because that's the part of the screen that was being "drawn" while the shutter was open.

On the other hand, the TV image looks odd for even a short shutter time image. The picture is drawn from top down, and fades gradually, so I would expect the top of the image would be darker and the bottom part would have the sharp line of delineation. Also TVs are interlaced (unless it's a HDTV-ready set) which would tend not to show a partial image like that (the computer monitor, however, is progressively scanned, so it makes sense that only half the image is visible, if the shutter speed is 1/2 the refresh rate of the monitor).

Yes, the television was on. However, In the first photo of THC, look at the top of the television. It looks as if it's flipping an image on the top. I can honestly say that this was not doing that to the naked eye. If I were indeed catching the TV refreshing, the first photo would have the top part blanked out also.

The second picture shows a similar pattern except at the bottom. Once again, if the TV was refreshing, how exactly is it that the image is shrunk only to show the what appears to be a child? My television does not have a widescreen option.

Yes, these pictures were taken literally seconds apart. The reason for this is that I realized that while trying to capture a picture of my PC and TV, I'd neglected to turn on the flash and it appeared very dark to my camera. The second picture with the child in the TV was taken about 30 seconds after the first picture. If I had turned on the LCD screen on my camera and noticed the child in the television, I would have snapped additional pictures.

Also, these pictures were taken with a digital camera. However, my digital camera eats batteries if I keep live view on, so when these pictures were taken, I did not notice anything strange in the LCD screen.

As SavannahSilkie said, things like this seem to follow me everywhere I go. I've taken pictures at friends' houses and had orbs show up in them recently and for no apparent reason. I took another picture of my room the same night as the television one that shows several distinct orbs in it. ((I think last count was about 4-5?)). It's gotten to the point where I've dedicated an entire folder on my hard drive to these type of anomolies, and with myself being a picture horder, I end up with lots of them.

I had a strange feeling one night at a friend's house and grabbed my camera to snap a picture of his basement doorway and you can see a distinct figure in the doorway if you look at it close. This figure kept asking if it could come in the house and I refused. A couple days later, it showed up in the house when my cousin and my friend were there and when they told it to leave, it started playing around with their heads.

Anyway, sorry I went a bit OT with this post but it answers all the questions so far and even gives you a small bit of background information as to why I ended up with these photographs. If you'd like to see more, just let me know and I'll be glad to offer my entire collection on a website. Most of my collection are not compressed, 100% quality directly from the camera and that's how they will stay on my webpage. I feel that degrading the quality of the picture might cause someone to miss something important. Just ask and I'll setup an area just for my paranormal photographs.

Kevin,
I've been waiting for your post on this because I had the same idea but didn't have the technical terms to explain it. I know that I can see the screen refreshing on my TV - in my peripheral vision, I see black bars running from top to bottom.

I've always thought capturing a spirit on TV is possible but more convincing if the TV is turned off. I think the static buildup on the screen can allow the spirit to be visable; however, I do wonder sometimes if the static could also hold some distorted residue of what was last broadcast. Years ago I had to have a color TV degoused or degaused (sp? - they waved some sort of electric wand over the screen)to remove the static buildup because it was effecting the color so I know that static can cause some weird effects.

If I may quote one of my friends on this issue about refresh rates. He stated that on the first picture, the image on the television is NOT in a line as TV's refresh. The image on the television appears to be curved at the top.

Also notice in the first photograph that the monitor next to the TV doesn't have a half-image on it, but yet instead is showing the full image with no blank areas.

Just to see what it looked like when zoomed in, I opened up the first picture in ACDSee and zoomed 3 levels. Upon looking at the top of the TV, not only is it not an even line as if it would be if it were refreshing, but you can also see the man's head clearly through the area in question.

Another thing that I noticed when zoomed that I didn't notice until I zoomed in on it is that there's bands coming from the outer edges of the television that look out of place.

Regardless paranormal or not, I highly appriciate the info. As I said in my previous post, let me know if you'd like to see more pictures that I've taken that might seem a bit stranger.

I was just going to say that - that the blue blob is the reflection of the TV image on the monitor.

Kevin, thank you for sharing your knowledge on this subject! I'm learning a lot! And Sneaky, thank you for sharing your pics to get us talking about it. =)

Kell

Wow... Kevin... I never knew tv's did all that stuff... I'm still trying to figure out how a picture appears on a tv at all Traveling thru lil wires and bam there's a pic! hehe I haven't figured out how telephones work either... how you can talk in something and it travels thru wires and you hear a person's voice!! But I do know how to use them. =P Einstein I'm not, hehe... But it does give an explanation, which I have wondered about ever since I saw the photo. Not saying I understand all of it (I'd be lying if I said I did)... Thank you for taking the time to share and you are one smart techno guy. =)

the trick of the casting a shadow image on the tv screen is a good one ... Kevin ... but what if you took a pic of the tv screen and saw a shadow of a hand ... and you hadn't done the flashlight/hand trick? Who cast or what cast the shadow? and better yet who would belive that you hadn't done the flashlight/hand shadow trick?
I have taken pics of my tv screens on and off. I have never captured and unexplain anomalies. But when I was doing it I used a real 35mm SLR not an instant or digital. You can capture the full image by adjusting the shutter speeds and best to use high speed film ISO 800 or above.

We'd really like to other pictures of yours Sneeky. Like the one of the figure in the doorway.

Any ghostie pictures need to be rung through the wringer. There's a lot of strange but not ghostly explanations for anomalies on captured in pictures.

Nakis, Sneaky's other pics are posted in this thread.[/URL]

TV Ghost is solved. Here it is 6:10am and I'm watching the history channel. "History Channel In The Classroom" is on and guess what the intro is, yep, you guessed it, it's the boy with his hand at the screen.

Apparently the show was going to commercial when the first picture was taken and then the capture of the boy occured just a few seconds later when the program was going off.

And here I had my hopes up, ah well, thanks for all the input guys, will keep you posted on any other pictures I might get ahold of that might contain anything out of the ordinary.

[ December 12, 2003, 04:08 AM: Message edited by: Sneaky ]