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Jan 12 '04

Past Life

Don’t ask me how or why I seen this because to this day I just don’t know but all the same this is the entire account of what happened.
When I was living up in Wigan northwest of England the year was 1998. I was on a bus going to Wigan town centre to do some shopping, as I was sitting there I got this what I can only describe as a vivid vision just as if I was looking at a television.
It was a Monday evening 23rd December 1901 7:20pm (for some reason I knew this) I saw and felt myself on a carriage pulled by 2 horses coming home from the local village after getting some presents for my wife Sarah and her mother and a few of the maids and stable lads.
The 2 horses that was pulling the carriage this was open by the way not closed was steadily gaining speed the snow had stopped but the pathway that I was travelling on was snow and ice covered.

I felt the cold night air against my face, whilst I am on the bus. By now I am getting to the point of wandering if I am seeing things or having some sort of hallucination, I was not taking any kind of medication and I don’t drink.

I remember I was happy to think I am not long from Sarah and about to get home to give her the present I had bought. As I got closer to the house, and the house was a large type, I could see Sarah in the front top room with her mother with her back to the bay window.
I felt the carriage jump and I flew out in front of the 2 wheels I rolled out of the way to be caught by the last 2 wheels of the carriage I felt my face hit hard against the ice covered floor, it was so cold at that point I felt a fear for my wife the last wheel on the back right ran over my neck I lay there not able to move the only sight I could see was Sarah in the window, my heart was hurting I could not cry out or move. A couple of the stable lads came running over to me to help shouting out to others.
Things started to grow dark and I felt lonely I still could see Sarah in the window I was longing for her at that point all went black I remember nothing after that.
This was whilst I was sitting on a bus, why did I see all this? Why the time and date so clearly? Why was every thing so vivid to me?
I had no memory of my name or of any thing else, or where it was.
This happened for a reason that I couldn’t explain to any one, I have tried a search on Sarah Louise Thomas, this was her full name. But as yet nothing comes up that connects.
If this actually did happen then was I really the person who died? Or was I seeing some one else’s death? If so for what reason?
I have to many questions but can’t provide any answers.
When I got off the bus I walked around for about an hour before I actualy done any kind of shopping running it all through my mind, later when I got home I wrote it all down, I tried to tell one person but it went over hear head. So I kept this to myself for all this years.

As I am typing this I can actually feel the ice on my face and the cold night air,the actual room I am in is warm I am by the radiator. As a matter of interest I have trouble with my throat now and then when I am trying to sleep I jump out of bed fast to try to stop myself from coughing its like having a tickle at the back of your throat that makes you choke and couth with out control, this is extremely scary when it happens but over the years I have learnt to be slow and to breath slow to gain control of it.

If any one can then please reply to me, this is like having a jigsaw puzzle with pieces missing.


Mike….
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Trinity

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Jan 12 '04

Mike,

That is such an interesting story. To me it sounds like it was a vision from a past life. Two things that make me believe this are that you have issues with your throat and the man in your vision seemed to have died of an injury inflicted to his neck, and that the vision itself was so vivid. Although I'm certainly not an expert on the subject, that would be my guess. Also, it seems like while you were seeing this you felt the "man's" emotions very strongly, as if it was happening to you.

I have no idea why you would have seen it at that particular time/day etc. I suppose sometimes these things have no rhyme or reason. You did say that you were going shopping that day though and maybe the excitement of that and just the whole Holiday season kicked in and brought up the memory or vision.

I hope that helps a little bit. There are a few people on the board that have much more experience though and might be able to give you some more insight. I'm looking forward to hearing what other's have to say.

[ January 12, 2004, 02:37 PM: Message edited by: Trinity ]
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digital ocean

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Jan 12 '04

Thanks Trinity for that [Wink] I cant believe that what I saw had no meaning what so ever. Why would I feel the cold air and ice on my face? The whole feelings I had for Sarah. It just dont make sence at this moment but I am sure some how I will find an answere.


Mike.... =)
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KellKell

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Jan 12 '04

Very interesting, Mike! I agree that this was perhaps a bit from a past life. I don't think you were a third party watching the events. You felt sensations and emotions of the event, as well as the fact that it happened while you were awake. Visions that happen while you're awake, I think, are more impactful than dreams. It's harder to ignore them or write them off as 'just a dream'.

Okay... you don't remember the location or your name. But there is a little bit to go on. It's snowing and icy in December and you're riding in a carriage. Do you remember anything about the landscape or your house as you were approaching it? What style was it? Could it have been in England? I'm looking up Sarah Louise Thomas on ancestry.com right now. We can assume that is her married surname, so you are probably Mr. Thomas. Without much to go on, chances are I won't be able to pinpoint anything... but I thought I'd have a look anyway. [Wink] Do you remember about how old you or Sarah were? No kids, I presume? If any other names (particularly of her mother) come to mind, let me know!

Kell
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Jeffrey J Keene

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Jan 13 '04

Mike,

I must say that I think the ladies have hit the nail on the head with their observations. You were relaxed on the bus and sometimes when we are in such a state things come to us. They could be external or internal. In your case I would hazard a guess that it was the later. I find that at the point of awakening in the morning or just before falling asleep at night are perfect times to receive information. Hypnosis brings us to such a point as does daydreaming,as you were doing on the bus but, who says that daydreams can't be real? What you went through was for a reason. It could have been to give you an explanation for your neck problem (sometime the awareness of a cause is the cure) or to remind you of a past love (or both). You might want to try meditation to bring more to the surface. It really is a matter of "ask and it shall be given unto you". You may be surprised at what information comes. One thing I am sure of is the fact that love last forever so, you may find that your Sarah is still close at hand.

[The website below is one of the best places for answers to reincarnation questions.]

http://www.geocities.com/richard_holmes/reincarnation/faq.htm[/URL]

Jeff.
www.confederateyankee.net[/URL]

[ January 12, 2004, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: Jeffrey J. Keene ]

KellKell

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Jan 13 '04

Jeff, thank you for stopping by to give your insight! It's always good to hear from someone who has been through it. [Wink]

Mike, be sure to check out Jeffrey's website (the link is below his name). He has one of the best cases for reincarnation/past lives and has written a book about it. It's facsinating! [Big Grin]

Kell
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nakis

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Jan 13 '04

It could have been a previous life remembrance. Something you saw or smelled could have triggered the memory. Perhaps it was the area you were in. The energy in place closely matched the energy in the place of that memory. Someone in that bus may have shared that life with you. Being near them may have brought it on.

It may have been a residual memory of the place where you were at the time(on the bus). Or maybe you came in contact with a spirit and learned something of its history. Though I think the past life reason is the most likely.

It's very hard to tell unless you can sense what the reasoning was.

The droning of the bus, train, car, etc.. tends to relax your conscious mind allowing you to connect to these types of visions. Like Jeff said, when you're in these relaxed states these visions/memories/etc. come through.

I've had many of these. From experiences of lives that could not possibly have been a previous life for me (a time period that's from while I'm alive in this body) to tens of thousands(and more) of years ago as primitive man. I still don't know if they are from a previous life or somehow, someway experiencing a connection to other lives.
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digital ocean

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Jan 13 '04

Well to add a bit more that may be of interest, the house was large as in worth a pretty penny, there was stable lads and maids, there was no children, well I didnt feel them just Sarah. Her mother was dressed in a green dress that came down to her ankles, on the way back from the village the landscape on my right hand side very bushy, on my left hand side a few trees with a slope going downwards. The house had 2 chimneys a drive leading up to it but the drive was not long more like 30 yards. AS for Wigan before I actualy moved there I explained I seen buildings and some derelect building around a lake.
When I got there my wife told me about the buildings that I seen in a dream one night, the buildings was exactly the same as I told her and more over in the past the one building a library was used for cooking on an upper floor years previouse she told me that it had been used for that purpose amongst other things, as for the lake or flash as they would call it up there, the derelect buildings was there exactly as I saw them in my dream. I also told her I was an archer in a previouse life and I was with 3 others in a tower trying to protect against an army.
So she lead me to the main church in Wigan town centre and there on the wall is a plaque to tell of the day that 4 archers was captured from the main church tower some sort of battle was going on at the time in history. I have been to many places in England but Wigan held a lot of strong feelings for me. AS I was telling my wife of the library and its past I could see and feel the presence of people that no one else could see, I saw fields and hedge rows the one field that the library was built on had a fight going on with local soldiers and the invading army of the day.
I had water in my eyes because I felt like I was picturing myself there. Its a strange and sobering feeling to have that happen to you.
For me I belive that I was one person who lived in Wigan hundreds of years ago. Well if I truly was I just cant prove any of it, all I have is very strong memories and feelings from it. Some times I feel very sad thinking I know I was there, like a longing for some thing I was. Its not until now I have been open about any of it, well I did try to tell what I thought was the right person to talk to, but that was a mistake, the sly smile made that obviouse. The sort of smile that says, "Yes Mike what ever you say"
This I can tell you can make me feel frustrated knowing what I know and not being able to tell any one, that is until now.

Mike...
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sundog

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Jan 13 '04

HI Mike! first I want to say.....what a cool place name Wigan is. I just love it! sounds like the name of a big 6 foot rabbit with a checkered top coat and a pocket watch-and - oh yes- a walking stick too!

I understand your feelings as I have great and similar feelings for Charleston South Carolina.

I think you may have experienced an actual past life memory because of your throat problems.

In charleston I died in the great earthquake as the stairs collapsed. In another two lives- one as a british soldier I was shot in the head and one life in I think Atlanta or Macon Georgia- I was also shot in the head through a back window of a car. I was born with epilepsy in this life and I believe it has something to do with being shot twice in the head. Really!

I longed so for the balmy breezes and cabbage palms that I moved to the southeast in the USA to be within a few hours of Charleston- a place I regard as "home". If I didnt own this house in Florida I think I would go there for good.

Man, I understand. You are actually very very lucky to have had this vision. I hope you know that.

best wishes man from Wigan- Sundog

[ January 13, 2004, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: sundog ]
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