Saw this, haven't finished reading yet, but found it fascinating & knew I had to bring it here. I'm not so sure that this mans' description of life after death is for everyone. Not that it's bad, it just may not go with some religions or scientific beliefs.


NDE[/URL]


Ok I've finished it...kind of a string theory, existential explanation.

[ February 25, 2004, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: hallowseve ]

=)

Kevin Williams has "the" site when it comes to NDE. www.near-death.com[/URL] Kevin does not confine thoughts there to just NDE but branches out into all other areas related to the study of the human/spirit condition. He sought me out and was even kind enough to do a page on my own story. Good guy, great website.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation07.html[/URL]
Best, Jeff

[ February 29, 2004, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: Jeffrey J. Keene ]

Hey thanx Jeff, I put off responding cause I was kind of hoping maybe a few others might take a gander. Have to admit a few of the concepts Kevin Williams was trying to get across made me a little misty-eyed. When I'm in the frame of mind I will be checking out that site, I appreciate your response. =)

I have always been very interested in the topic of NDE's. Very intriqued by the experiences that so many have shared. Have not had a chance to view and read the site that you mentioned Hallow nor the one Jeffrey has also commented on. I am hoping to have a chance later on tonight to do so and will comment more then. Just popping in for a quick visit for now.

Cat =)

Thanx Cat!

Ummm,ok the topmost"near death" link above comes up not found, I think it's meant to be this page, but I'm not sure.
http://www.near-death.com/about.html[/URL]

[ June 01, 2004, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: hallowseve ]

Kevin Williams site for NDE and Richard Holmes site http://www.geocities.com/richard_holmes/reincarnation/faq.htm[/URL]

for questions on reincarnation. Two great sites.

I fixed the link to Kevin's site in my first post (bracket was to close and was being read as part of address).

Off to Ireland,I will be back in a week.
Best, Jeff

Big ((Hugs)) to you Hallow. Thank-you for sharing your NDE experience. A very personal experience. I'm glad that you are here with us. Although many of the stories I have read talked of the tunnel and white light and seeing loved ones passed, not all have. I have read of others that had experiences similar to yours. I am in no way an expert in this area so my following thoughts are merely just that, my personal thoughts on it. In some of the things you said it sounds like there were some troubled times you had experienced and situations that you felt less than proud of your actions. Well I can safely say that you are surely not alone there. Gosh when I reflect back on my life I have a long list myself (as I would bet most people do) that I dread having to face when the time comes for the life reveal portion when making the final transition. Perhaps if we still have a ways to go with learning the lessons we came here to learn that a less than euphoric experience, as I imagine being in the white light would be, is what is required to clearly provide a message that one can return back with, a message that shows the changes required to take the path you are destined to be on. I'm sorry that you had a time that you were so unhappy with yourself. You spoke of a dark fuzzy place which sounds like the same place you were in in life at that time. If our soul feels sad and dark maybe that is projected out when a life threatening trauma, which you must have gone through, leads to an NDE. ((Hugs)) Please don't feel embarassed with this experience and in telling it for you were blessed to have been given the opportunity to see and understand what will make your life better and to find peace within. I am so sorry though that you had to go through a life threatening trauma though. I am grateful to you for talking about it for I too have learned something by it. To only hear of the white light NDE's I do not believe that others can learn as much, other than there is a better place we will all go to one day. The one day when the time is right. When it is meant to be or as many others have said as it has been pre-determined in your chart. I suppose that is why so many have returned, it was not time. I have learned from the white light stories not to fear death and from stories like yours that we all need take a long look in the mirror and make the changes, that we alredy know deep inside, that need to be made. Changes for yourself, ones that will help make your time here truly what it should be. Like ridding ourselves of negative thoughts and emotions.
That phone call to your friend, wow, I wonder how that happened? I am also curious about the beings you felt were there with you - did you feel a sense of comfort knowing they were there? Hope I am not prying by asking that and please no worries if you do not want to speak anymore on this. Thanks again Hallow for sharing this amazing experience. I am so glad that it has helped you and that you are no longer feeling the way you were at that time. =)

Still need to have a look at those other sites - I will.

Cat =)

Thanks for the recounting of NDE and also reincarnation experiences. Jeff, we live very close to each other. I'm in Norwalk! As a therapist I help people with past life regression, helping them to heal past lives. I have seen many people come in with life recurring pains that disappear after they see and understand their past. As for the NDEs...are you aware that there is a meditation practice that allows you to experience death while you are still alive? You might want to check out Sant Mat, or the Way of the Masters. You can do a google search to get more info. You don't have to die to have an out of body experience, or to go beyond the body...etc. Certainly worth the time and practice!

((((Big hugs))))Back atcha Cat! I appreciate the support! I do think I have hit my comfort level, as far as posting about it online goes. I feel that sharing experiences about ghosts & NDEs & the like helps to allay peoples fears about death in general. Hopefully, then that gives purpose to things I have written & things others have written. =)

Sorry Halloweve, I didn't realize you were looking for people to write about what they thought of the site. I answered with a =) because I really liked it. I still hold out on what the afterlife will be like (because when it comes down to it all I care is that I get to be with God on a more personal level again).
When I read the post your link led to it was like remembering beauty. I laughed and cried at was written because it kept striking cords with me (I consciously remember seeing the whole physical universe at a distance,etc..). I was one of those kids who railed at how this world works because I could remember (vaguely) what it was like before I came here. Those memories have faded even more but when I read something about someone talking about the beauty of God and the afterlife it triggers emotions in me.

I'm sorry your NDE wasn't so pleasant. I think if I experienced a NDE right now it wouldn't be far from yours. But I have faith that even though you may experience something like that after your body dies it will still work out wonderfully. I have faith that the Love that is God would not leave you in that state. Maybe I'm just nieve.
Thanks for sharing your experience.

No worries Nakis! =) I got all soupy reading that stuff too.- One of the reasons it took a bit for me to write more about it.
I don't feel that what I went through was negative. On the contrary,it brought me back to who I was before the world got its cold clammy hands on me.
I believe that personal & spiritual growth is a neverending process & I make new mistakes everyday.However, now there is more calm & clarity for me to be able to evaluate my actions. And I'm so much less angry than I used to be.
On the flip side of the coin, when I screw up it IS more painful. Only because I no longer have as many illusions to hide behind.
Lots to learn, always.
How lucky you have been to have some recollection. Oh, & I liked the smiley, it was short & to the point! =)

[ March 04, 2004, 11:17 PM: Message edited by: hallowseve ]

=) =) =) I'm still reading it. Garsh there's a lot of information on that website.