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Neeley

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Jul 8 '04

Hi Everyone.

This is a subject that is very cose to my heart.

When i was 3, my 24 year old half brother was murdered in Northern Ireland, he was over there in the army at the time but murdered whilst in civilain clothes, just for speaking briefly to another mans girlfriend, he was calliously run down & left to die, the murderer was never brought to justice, it was completely covered up, i know this man will get whats coming to him, if its not already happened, just make me sick that people even now get away with such terrible crimes, doesnt seem to be strong justice for the innocent.
What do others think of the justice system?

Neeley

[ July 08, 2004, 05:34 AM: Message edited by: Neeley ]
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Carrie

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Jul 8 '04

Truthfully, Neeley, here across the pond, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I think we have so many sleazy lawyers who don't have a conscience, they pull every trick in the book to let an often guilty client go free.

My husband has an unsolved mystery in his family. To make a long story short, he had a distant cousin who was brutally murdered in her early twenties. The girl had some problems to begin with, but it was a horrible case. The killer(s) went free even though some theories were widely circulated. My husband had an uncle that was close to the young woman, who in turn died under very mysterious circumstances after he started looking into the girl's death. It was really a bizarre situation, and one that has puzzled James and his family for years now. Private investigators were hired, but they just ran into dead ends.

I've seen a lot of cases where justice was not served, and I've seen a lot where the bad guys were put away. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason; just who you know and how crooked your lawyer is. My deepest sympathy for your family about your half brother. No parent should go through the heartache of having to bury their child.
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cat!spiritkeep

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Jul 8 '04

Neeley my sympathy as well to you and your family. I agree with Carrie no parent should have to bury a child. ((hugs)).

Carrie what a sad story, sorry for your families loss as well. Sounds like some sort of cover-up and likely the uncle may have gotten close to finding out the truth or at least info that could lead to some answers.

Neely your right he will get his before he leaves the world and after. It makes me sick when there is a cover-up involved. Those that are involved with helping to cover things or get someone off from a terrible crime will get theirs as well. What goes around comes around.

It is difficult and heartbreaking enough to lose a loved one but when there is no justice for the crime or unanswered questions it only adds to the pain. I am so sorry you and your family have to go through this. Do know though justice will be served in ways worse than a jail sentence can provide. Disgusting cowardly actions as these do not go unnoticed by the greater power.

Sadly the justice system does have it's failures all over this world. It's not enough that some crimes go unpunished but then there are those that a slap on the wrist is handed out when years or a life sentence is warranted and others that did a crime which caused no hardship, hurt, loss to anyone and they have the book thrown at them. [Confused] [Mad]

Warm white light and prayers for both of you that you will find peace and resolve to these situations.
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Neeley

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Jul 9 '04

Hi Carrie & Cat, Thankyou so much for your replys, im so sorry Carrie that your husband has an unsolved crime on his side of the family to, you never know one day it may be finally solved.

Thankyou both for you time re the post.

Take care, Speak to you soon.
Neeley
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KnightTerror

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Jul 11 '04

I know how he feels. My older sister was murdered in the 80's. The guy was a neighbor of hers and she had known him when we were growing up. Out of the blue, he decided to break in her house, and stabbed her to death. He was in different hospitals off and on, his family knew he had problems, yet his mother signed the papers to get him out, several months before this happened. He was found guilty, by reason of insanity and is in a mental hospital. It's something you never get over, that's for sure. I don't and probably never will feel like we got justice.
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cat!spiritkeep

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Jul 12 '04

KnightTerror that is so sad. My heart and prayers go out to you and your family for the loss of your sister. (((hugs)))

I will never understand how people that are so obviously in need of being institionalized are let out. I don't care if a parent signs a paper or not the authorities and doctors should have had enough knowledge and common sense to know that releasing someone as troubled and sick as this guy obviously was should never have happened. I hope they have thrown away the key and he will never be let into society again.
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Carrie

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Jul 12 '04

Knight Terror, I'm sorry about your sister, what a horrible crime. I think a lot of this goes back to families of these people being in denial, or just flat out burying their heads in the sand and not standing back from the situation to see that their family member or loved one has some serious issues.

I saw this so many times when I was teaching. (I taught kids with learning disabilities and behavior problems). When you would try to talk to a lot of parents they would ignore what you were saying and make up every excuse in the book over why their kid was the way they were. Who cares about excuses, just get these people the help they need before they are unleashed on society and commit these horrible crimes!! They chalk the kid's behavior up to normal adolescent angst and don't realize it isn't normal at all. Looking back, I can almost name the kids I taught who will more than likely be petty criminals all their lives and about a handful who will probably at some point commit a violent crime.

Then, of course, when they try to get help for the kid, some brilliant "expert" comes along and declares them "cured" just to lighten his/her workload. The kid gets lost in the paperwork and society pays. I knew of one case where a psychologist was called in to work with one of my students, a cherubic faced kid with a fondness for bullying and thievery (at 13, he had a racket of stealing social security checks from mailboxes). This "expert's" idea of therapy for this child was to take him to bars and shoot pool with him. After about two months, he was declared to be fine and dandy. The little darling now has a criminal record sheet as long as your arm and has done several stints in rehab. I saw him just a few weeks ago, disheveled, higher than a kite, wondering the streets looking for trouble.

Behavior that leads to violent crimes starts out young. The warning signs are just ignored or overlooked.
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Neeley

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Jul 17 '04

Hi Guys

Just making it clear im a girl

cheers neeley
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