Nice moving orb pics, Damien. Thank you for sharing them. You can also d/l PSP9 free trial at Paint Shop Pro9[/URL] and get to Digimark through there, by clicking images/watermark. They have different options for watermarking, like you can get their service for $49.00/year and watermark up to 100 photos. They have other ones too, that's the cheapest one I saw. My images are copyrighted at Ripside through Villagephotos when I upload them there, with a paid account. I use the cheapie $5.00/month plan there. I have a nice moving orb with an after pic, taken at a cemetery in Covington, GA. I'll make a seperate post for it.

Hugs,
Pate

Hi Damien,
Of course we have a pictures section on Spiritkeep's main site. If you would like to see them, just go to SpiritKeep Ghost Photo Gallery[/URL] Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, and take a look at Kell's Orb (the last one in the list). It makes an awesome angular turn. There are some other good pics there, too. But, we would never post a picture there without permission, and any picture is always identified with the photographer's name and a little bit about the pic, as well. We have several pics that we just havn't had time to put up. If you would ever like a pic of yours posted there, just let us know, and we will certainly be happy to do it.

I understand your reasoning about trying to recreate a shot, just to prove that it might be something other than what was in your first pic. That makes sense.

People who like to work with the paranormal need to have an open mind about alot of things, and so often, there will never be any proof found to show it to be real or not. We are all flying by the seat of our pants, and it is important that we remain open minded so that we can learn from one another. There is a healthy amount of skepticism that is good, but, like anything else, it can be taken too far. It is a delicate balance we must all eventually learn to achieve to be better investigators. You have to see both sides of the coin, and I applaud people who can do just that.

I would be interested to hear what you might have to say about the orb of Kell's in the SpiritKeep Gallery. I think that is a true PN orb. I just don't know how something like dust or moisture could make a turn like that. It also seemed to come out of the ceiling. Anyway, have a look, and let us know your thoughts.

Mare

yeah i would say that that is an excellent picture! =) and pate thanks for the link i will check it out =)

*edit* oh before i forget the reason i asked to see a before shot was to rule out 100% that it isnt a stone lying on the ground at first i thought everyone was talking about the white stuff on the stone in the foreground but after going back and re-reading the posts i realized that wasnt the case.

[ January 19, 2005, 05:27 AM: Message edited by: damien99 ]

Damien, Kell says "thanks" for the comment about her orb pic. =) We really like that one, too.

I think Digimarc would be a good bet for you. It does not show in the picture, but is embedded. If anyone takes the picture and uses it without permission, you will have rock solid proof that it is yours.

You might also want to look into methods of permanent storage of the pictures just as they came from the camera ( like on CD, and not just your hard drive, which can fail and leave you with nothing). In the realm of digital pictures, where you hav no negative, it will probably need to be treated more like a computer generated graphic, so far as copyrights go. I have worked with computer graphics and copyrights for quite some time now, and that first save of the graphic IS the copyright, I am sure that something like this will probably apply to the digital pictures, as well. You might want to research this further on the internet, and learn about how to protect your rights on your digital photos.

Happy hunting,

Mare

Mare I've looked at Kell's pic a few times in past, it is an excellent orb. =) Good tip on putting your originals on CD, I've done that myself and have made two copies of each CD in the event something happens to one. I've also used a seperate CD that I put any of the pics that I've cropped, contrasted etc on. Your so right better safe then sorry.

Thanks Damien for clarifying what you were first looking at with my pic, as your first comment was a bit confusing. Glad you decided to share a few pics as well, nice moving orbs.

Before and After, I know there can be some value to having them. If using for a time lapse reason you would need to duplicate the pic exactly. If I use Damiens as an example, it's not identical so if something was captured and it was in the lower part of the pic it likely would have been missed, that is if you were lucky to capture it again. Sometimes it helps rule out false positives like reflection or dust if you have pics in the same direction, even if not duplicated. A before and after is not always needed though, many single shots can and have shown good captures. Just my opinion.

BTW - I used my Sony 5.1 cybershot, this pic was taken with the normal with flash mode.
Thanks again everyone for your comments, info and pics shared. =)

Cat - which model Sony do you have? I recently got the DSC-V1 5.1 megapixel - is that the one you have? It's a great camera, at least for taking pictures of the purrkids, though I haven't used it for ghost hunting yet. =)

cat the reason i mentioned a before or after shot or even a random shot of that stone is to rule out 100% that the anomoly isnt a fallen stone in the background =)

Thanks Damien, I can understand the need to rule that out. Brightening the original (and zooming in) gives a better look of the area around the stone. This is an old cemetary but well maintained. I have a few pics like this one where one stone doesn't have any directly next to it. I plan to go back when the weather warms up (and some of the snow melts) to take more pics. =)

Kevin my Sony is the DSC-W1/W12 model 5.1 megapixel. Along with the features and design I was attracted to the 2.5 LCD and that it uses AA (rechargeable) batteries. The V1 is 4x zoom isn't it? This one is 3x. I really like this camera, takes nice pics and easy to use, just point and shoot. I have yet to try out all the modes and features (need to read the mannual ). Have you tried them all out? =)
Edit note: camera reads DSC-W1 (mannual is for W1/W12)

[ January 21, 2005, 01:34 AM: Message edited by: Cat ]