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My grandfather passed away in March of 1997 from cancer. He was a great guy and I enjoyed his company when my family went to visit. The last time I saw him, I never got to say goodbye. I didn't think anything of it at the time. A couple of months later his cancer got worse. My mother was going down there to see him, but had to come a week earlier because he was on his deathbed. She didn't make it in time.
When I heard about his death, it killed me emotionally, knowing that I had never said goodbye to him. I was upset for several months but finally got over his passing.
Now, I have had nothing happen to me since his passing in 1997. Just last month, I had a dream that scared me pretty good.
My grandfather was coming to visit, but he was alot younger than what I remember him. He was driving a 50s model vintage car but it was brand new. I saw him drive up and step out of the car (I remember exactly what he was wearing, freaky). As I opened the door he gave me a big hug and told me that he missed me. As the dream progressed, me and him went into the backyard which had a big swimming pool in it. A bunch of people I didn't know were back there and they all knew who my grandfather was. Now that I think about it, it was like I travelled back in time to an era when I wasn't born. The clothing was different than today's fashions.
After that part in the dream, it transitioned into something totally different. Everything became dark and I was trapped in a maze of dungeon like hallways and rooms. I don't know if that was apart of the original dream, but it stuck out pretty good in my mind.
Anyways, I'll be honest. I really never believed in the whole ghost and spirit thing. I think on a technical level of things being the way they are, and when people die, they just die. After reading on the forum (and watching the movie White Noise), I am starting to believe in it somewhat. If anyone could tell me if that dream had a purpose or if it was just my mind using old memories to create the dream.
Also, I told my parents about the dream and described the unknown people in the backyard. My parents told me that I described relatives that had passed away before I was born. Talk about freaky!
Thanks for reading!
[ February 05, 2005, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: EVPMike ]
My grandfather passed away in March of 1997 from cancer. He was a great guy and I enjoyed his company when my family went to visit. The last time I saw him, I never got to say goodbye. I didn't think anything of it at the time. A couple of months later his cancer got worse. My mother was going down there to see him, but had to come a week earlier because he was on his deathbed. She didn't make it in time.
When I heard about his death, it killed me emotionally, knowing that I had never said goodbye to him. I was upset for several months but finally got over his passing.
Now, I have had nothing happen to me since his passing in 1997. Just last month, I had a dream that scared me pretty good.
My grandfather was coming to visit, but he was alot younger than what I remember him. He was driving a 50s model vintage car but it was brand new. I saw him drive up and step out of the car (I remember exactly what he was wearing, freaky). As I opened the door he gave me a big hug and told me that he missed me. As the dream progressed, me and him went into the backyard which had a big swimming pool in it. A bunch of people I didn't know were back there and they all knew who my grandfather was. Now that I think about it, it was like I travelled back in time to an era when I wasn't born. The clothing was different than today's fashions.
After that part in the dream, it transitioned into something totally different. Everything became dark and I was trapped in a maze of dungeon like hallways and rooms. I don't know if that was apart of the original dream, but it stuck out pretty good in my mind.
Anyways, I'll be honest. I really never believed in the whole ghost and spirit thing. I think on a technical level of things being the way they are, and when people die, they just die. After reading on the forum (and watching the movie White Noise), I am starting to believe in it somewhat. If anyone could tell me if that dream had a purpose or if it was just my mind using old memories to create the dream.
Also, I told my parents about the dream and described the unknown people in the backyard. My parents told me that I described relatives that had passed away before I was born. Talk about freaky!
Thanks for reading!
[ February 05, 2005, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: EVPMike ]
Hi There Mike:
You may have experienced a couple of things here. One possibility, is that the first part of your dream was a visitation from your grandfather. The fact that he drove up is a way of saying, "Here I am, I've come to visit." His hugging you and is a way of saying that he loves and misses you. Other relatives from the past, being present could also be a way of saying that you have many loved ones who will be waiting for you whenever your time comes. Now, that's one possibility...
Here's another... I don't know if you've read about astral travel, but there is a post about it in the All Things Psychic forum, posted by Eccman on Jan 16th. Basically, a couple times a week when we sleep, our spirit takes a little break from our bodies and goes, "home" to refresh and renew itself. This is more common than you think. It could be that your spirit took a little trip, and visited with your grandfather and your relatives from the past were there also.
Either way, I tend to think this was a way of your grandfather letting you know that he still loves you very much, that his spirit is still alive and he is with loved ones and is quite happy. Once the spirit crosses over into the healing white light, it loses all of the stress, age, illnesses and so forth which plague the physical body. It is not unusual for spirits to appear as they did when they were young and healthy in life.
Don't beat yourself up for not being able to say goodbye. I recently went through those same emotions when my close friend died in June. I didn't get to see her or say goodbye and I think that bothered me more than anything else. Then, she called me, twice, leaving EVPs on my voice mail. She has visited me in dreams too. I personally, believe, that when we do cross over, we are given a divine knowledge and understanding of things. The people we love, know we love them and how much we miss them.
For the second part of your dream, I can't really interpret that. It could have just been a nightmare, from your subconcious fears of not being able to get back to that place where your grandfather and relatives are... It's hard to say. Or, if what you experienced was astral travel, it could be a place your spirit visited on it's way back to your physical body. Our spirits can pretty much go wherever they want to during astral travel. Many people experience fear when they are returning to the physical body. Whatever it is, you most likely did have a very real visit with your grandfather, which was meant to comfort you. =)
As far as the movie, White Noise, is concerned...I saw it too, and it hits on some facts, but it also gives some false impressions and makes them out to be scarey and something we shouldn't meddle in. When a loved one contacts us, it's not "us" meddling. It's them, wanting to assure us that there is a life after this one and they are meant to comfort or give us a message that perhaps they weren't able to. If a person intentionally goes out to graveyards or wherever, and tries to capture EVP's from whoever is going to talk to them, that can different, because you don't know who you might get contact with. If you want to hear the EVPs and read what happened with my friend who passed, go to: EVPs[/URL]
I hope this has helped you and I'm sure you will get some other opinions from folks here on the Board. I just want to add, our spirits do go on after this life, and they are capable of visiting us. There is no doubt in my mind.
Hugs,
Pate![[Rainbow Smiley]](graemlins/color.gif)
You may have experienced a couple of things here. One possibility, is that the first part of your dream was a visitation from your grandfather. The fact that he drove up is a way of saying, "Here I am, I've come to visit." His hugging you and is a way of saying that he loves and misses you. Other relatives from the past, being present could also be a way of saying that you have many loved ones who will be waiting for you whenever your time comes. Now, that's one possibility...
Here's another... I don't know if you've read about astral travel, but there is a post about it in the All Things Psychic forum, posted by Eccman on Jan 16th. Basically, a couple times a week when we sleep, our spirit takes a little break from our bodies and goes, "home" to refresh and renew itself. This is more common than you think. It could be that your spirit took a little trip, and visited with your grandfather and your relatives from the past were there also.
Either way, I tend to think this was a way of your grandfather letting you know that he still loves you very much, that his spirit is still alive and he is with loved ones and is quite happy. Once the spirit crosses over into the healing white light, it loses all of the stress, age, illnesses and so forth which plague the physical body. It is not unusual for spirits to appear as they did when they were young and healthy in life.
Don't beat yourself up for not being able to say goodbye. I recently went through those same emotions when my close friend died in June. I didn't get to see her or say goodbye and I think that bothered me more than anything else. Then, she called me, twice, leaving EVPs on my voice mail. She has visited me in dreams too. I personally, believe, that when we do cross over, we are given a divine knowledge and understanding of things. The people we love, know we love them and how much we miss them.
For the second part of your dream, I can't really interpret that. It could have just been a nightmare, from your subconcious fears of not being able to get back to that place where your grandfather and relatives are... It's hard to say. Or, if what you experienced was astral travel, it could be a place your spirit visited on it's way back to your physical body. Our spirits can pretty much go wherever they want to during astral travel. Many people experience fear when they are returning to the physical body. Whatever it is, you most likely did have a very real visit with your grandfather, which was meant to comfort you. =)
As far as the movie, White Noise, is concerned...I saw it too, and it hits on some facts, but it also gives some false impressions and makes them out to be scarey and something we shouldn't meddle in. When a loved one contacts us, it's not "us" meddling. It's them, wanting to assure us that there is a life after this one and they are meant to comfort or give us a message that perhaps they weren't able to. If a person intentionally goes out to graveyards or wherever, and tries to capture EVP's from whoever is going to talk to them, that can different, because you don't know who you might get contact with. If you want to hear the EVPs and read what happened with my friend who passed, go to: EVPs[/URL]
I hope this has helped you and I'm sure you will get some other opinions from folks here on the Board. I just want to add, our spirits do go on after this life, and they are capable of visiting us. There is no doubt in my mind.
Hugs,
Pate
Good points Pate.
Thankyou for bringing some light as to what that dream could have meant. It is hard for me to take in all of this spirit stuff, but it does make sense.
About the darker part of the dream. Everything was different and had nothing to do with the first part. I am just thinking that it was 1 dream tailgating the other one.
Thanks for your insight on the subject. I appreciate it.
Thankyou for bringing some light as to what that dream could have meant. It is hard for me to take in all of this spirit stuff, but it does make sense.
About the darker part of the dream. Everything was different and had nothing to do with the first part. I am just thinking that it was 1 dream tailgating the other one.
Thanks for your insight on the subject. I appreciate it.
Hi Mike
I have been journaling my dreams for quite some time now and have found it to be very helpful. It has helped me to better understand them and I now recall them easier and with more detail. Keep in mind you are the best person to interpret your dreams, even those that are similar to the kinds others may have as it's the little details that can be most telling. Having back to back dreams or ones that seem to overlap is not uncommon.
I agree with Pate that your dream was a visitation dream. I believe though that visitation dreams are actualy Astral travels as well. I have read and it is my belief also that we leave our bodies more than we realize during the sleeping hours. Some people have recollection of when this happens while others may have no memory of the experience at all. The maze of hallways and rooms may have been your memory of heading back into your body? I have had dreams that followed another where I am in this vast darkness with small stars/lights in the far distance and I am all alone. I often wake suddenly after this and I believe it may be linked to an OBE in some way.
Perhaps your Grandfather was not only saying hello but was also sharing a message with you? Try and recall some of the little details. Maybe the visit was to show you that he was just fine and although he is not here in body his Spirit is still with you. You mentioned you never really believed in life after death, so having relatives there that you've never met during the visit may have been his way of providing further validation for you? It's harder to think your mind is just using old memories when you don't have memory of those relatives. Sounds to me he wanted you to know for sure this was a visit not just a memory. =) Just my opinon.
I too lost my Grandfather and was not able to say goodbye the last time I saw him. I know exactly how you feel. I miss him very much but I know when it's my time to go I will see and be with him and other loved ones that have crossed over once again. I have had dream visits with him, once not long after his passing (he died in 91) and again not to long ago. It feels so real doesn't it?
Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Cat =)
I have been journaling my dreams for quite some time now and have found it to be very helpful. It has helped me to better understand them and I now recall them easier and with more detail. Keep in mind you are the best person to interpret your dreams, even those that are similar to the kinds others may have as it's the little details that can be most telling. Having back to back dreams or ones that seem to overlap is not uncommon.
I agree with Pate that your dream was a visitation dream. I believe though that visitation dreams are actualy Astral travels as well. I have read and it is my belief also that we leave our bodies more than we realize during the sleeping hours. Some people have recollection of when this happens while others may have no memory of the experience at all. The maze of hallways and rooms may have been your memory of heading back into your body? I have had dreams that followed another where I am in this vast darkness with small stars/lights in the far distance and I am all alone. I often wake suddenly after this and I believe it may be linked to an OBE in some way.
Perhaps your Grandfather was not only saying hello but was also sharing a message with you? Try and recall some of the little details. Maybe the visit was to show you that he was just fine and although he is not here in body his Spirit is still with you. You mentioned you never really believed in life after death, so having relatives there that you've never met during the visit may have been his way of providing further validation for you? It's harder to think your mind is just using old memories when you don't have memory of those relatives. Sounds to me he wanted you to know for sure this was a visit not just a memory. =) Just my opinon.
I too lost my Grandfather and was not able to say goodbye the last time I saw him. I know exactly how you feel. I miss him very much but I know when it's my time to go I will see and be with him and other loved ones that have crossed over once again. I have had dream visits with him, once not long after his passing (he died in 91) and again not to long ago. It feels so real doesn't it?
Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Cat =)
The little details get fuzzy as time goes on. It was just weird how the dream occured. I've never seen younger pictures of him or anything. The only recollection I have is of his older self. When I woke up, I found it strange that I saw him as being younger. Like I said, it was like my dream was in a past time when he was younger.
Some believe that we are all the age of 30 on the other side no matter how old we were at the time of our passing. If you are familiar with some of the gifted ppl that have exampled their gift in books, seminars, tv/radio appearances, like Sylvia Browne, Hanz King, VanPraagh etc etc. they state that for whatever reason 30 is the age. Sometimes when spirit visits us they show themselves near or at that age and time but mostly we see them in (visit) dreams as we last remembered them before their passing (minus any illness they may have had). If you had a dream of your Grandfather as you last remembered him in a familiar setting without the other relatives there, would you have thought it to be anything more than a memory dream?
Some believe that we can and do have dreams that will take us to another time and era as they are memory dreams of a former life. I've had several dreams from the 1800's which I've often wondered if I was remembering a former time here. Perhaps your dream is linked to a past memory that way but by the way you described your interaction with your Grandfather my impression is that it was a visitation. Perhaps some others will have a different take on this. =)
Some believe that we can and do have dreams that will take us to another time and era as they are memory dreams of a former life. I've had several dreams from the 1800's which I've often wondered if I was remembering a former time here. Perhaps your dream is linked to a past memory that way but by the way you described your interaction with your Grandfather my impression is that it was a visitation. Perhaps some others will have a different take on this. =)
Memory dreams are built on things that you have experienced in your life. If instead my grandfather was older, and it was my current day friends out back instead of the relatives, I would have thought differently. Simply seeing people I have never seen in my own life makes me wonder where they could have come from. A visit it definently was.
EVPMIKE,
My father passed away at 42 it was very sudden while he was away for the weekend.. I also didn't get to say good by to him. We had a very rocky relationship. So I felt like there was a lot of unfinished business. About a month after, I had a dream were my father came to visit me. It was very odd to me because it was placed at my grandparents house (which had already passed) I was standing in the middle of a yard sale. My father just appears there in fornt of me. He tells me that my mother will have to move on soon and that she will have to sell his stuff. He told me that before all of that happens he wanted to give me something. He opened up a box that was sitting on the table to be sold I guess. He pulls out his wedding ring from the box and tells me that he wants me to have it to wear so that I will always know that he loved me. He then gave me a hug and told me that he would see me again but that he had to go. I didn't want him to go, I kept saying that he didn't have to go. He said yes it's time for me to go, then he turned around and seem to walk off and disappear into the sky.
I told my mom about the dream. I think she was hurt that he didn't visit her. But she said that if that's what he said then she would give me the wedding ring. So she had it sized and gave it to me for my 16th birthday. I was 15 when he died.
You know I wonder about the second part of you dream. I wonder if your grandfather was trying to let you know that there is a life after death. You said there was a hall way with different doors or room. To me it seems that someone might be trying to tell you, there are different paths you can take in life. There are choses to be made maybe now maybe later. maybe your grandfather is trying to tell you to think about this stuff now in stead of later.. before you chose the wrong path maybe. I don't know it's just a thought.
thanks for sharing your story
Shana
My father passed away at 42 it was very sudden while he was away for the weekend.. I also didn't get to say good by to him. We had a very rocky relationship. So I felt like there was a lot of unfinished business. About a month after, I had a dream were my father came to visit me. It was very odd to me because it was placed at my grandparents house (which had already passed) I was standing in the middle of a yard sale. My father just appears there in fornt of me. He tells me that my mother will have to move on soon and that she will have to sell his stuff. He told me that before all of that happens he wanted to give me something. He opened up a box that was sitting on the table to be sold I guess. He pulls out his wedding ring from the box and tells me that he wants me to have it to wear so that I will always know that he loved me. He then gave me a hug and told me that he would see me again but that he had to go. I didn't want him to go, I kept saying that he didn't have to go. He said yes it's time for me to go, then he turned around and seem to walk off and disappear into the sky.
I told my mom about the dream. I think she was hurt that he didn't visit her. But she said that if that's what he said then she would give me the wedding ring. So she had it sized and gave it to me for my 16th birthday. I was 15 when he died.
You know I wonder about the second part of you dream. I wonder if your grandfather was trying to let you know that there is a life after death. You said there was a hall way with different doors or room. To me it seems that someone might be trying to tell you, there are different paths you can take in life. There are choses to be made maybe now maybe later. maybe your grandfather is trying to tell you to think about this stuff now in stead of later.. before you chose the wrong path maybe. I don't know it's just a thought.
thanks for sharing your story
Shana
I've had some similar dreams also. Several months after my father passed, I had a dream in which he and several people I didn't recognize were around a table, enjoying a meal.
This gave me an odd sense of comfort when I saw my father eating a pile of big, boiled shrimp -- a real favorite of his in life. Dad had been on chemotherapy for the last year of his life and had not really enjoyed food during that time. Getting him to eat at all, even things he normally enjoyed was a chore.
He introduced me around the table, as "his baby", just as he had always done in life, hugged me and told me how glad he was to see me, but I couldn't stay, I had to go back and that he would be there when my time came. It was a very sweet dream, and in my heart, I feel it was a visit from him. After talking to family members about the dream and people around the table, they recognized them as friends of my father who had passed on.
I've also had dreams of being in a large "university" type building and meeting relatives there who had passed on -- some of whom passed before I was born. Your account of the long hallway and doors reminded me of this.
Interesting stories! Cat's suggestion of a dream journal is a good one, just to see if there are any patterns emerging from your dreams, and to help remember details.
This gave me an odd sense of comfort when I saw my father eating a pile of big, boiled shrimp -- a real favorite of his in life. Dad had been on chemotherapy for the last year of his life and had not really enjoyed food during that time. Getting him to eat at all, even things he normally enjoyed was a chore.
He introduced me around the table, as "his baby", just as he had always done in life, hugged me and told me how glad he was to see me, but I couldn't stay, I had to go back and that he would be there when my time came. It was a very sweet dream, and in my heart, I feel it was a visit from him. After talking to family members about the dream and people around the table, they recognized them as friends of my father who had passed on.
I've also had dreams of being in a large "university" type building and meeting relatives there who had passed on -- some of whom passed before I was born. Your account of the long hallway and doors reminded me of this.
Interesting stories! Cat's suggestion of a dream journal is a good one, just to see if there are any patterns emerging from your dreams, and to help remember details.
The hallways and doors in my dream were nothing like a University. It was more like a Hotel that I was staying at, and the room # they gave me got me lost. The atmosphere was fine at first, but the further I travelled into the building, the darker and more crypt-like things got. I actually wasn't trapped, but trying to find the room I would be staying in made me feel trapped.
Ok, I did a little research. At this one site I found something that might relate to you only because in one of the posts above you talk about not believing in stuff that you are now wondering about.
This was on dreammoods.com, I looked under places. Under hotel it says, To see a hotel in your dream, signifies a new state of mind or a shift in personal identity. You need to move away from your old habits and old way of thinking.
Also under Darkness it says, To dream that darkness comes upon you, signifies failure in work you may attempt. Darkness is synonymous with ignorance, the unconscious, evil, death, and fear of the unknown. if the sun breaks through the darkness, then you will overcome your failures. If you feel safe in the dark, then it suggests that you like not knowing about certain things. As some might say, ignorance is bliss.
To dream that you cannot find someone in the darkness, signifies that you need to keep your temper in check. You have the tendency to let your emotions get out of control and lose your temper.
To dream that you are lost in the darkness, denotes feelings of desperation, depression, or insecurity.
To dream that you are groping around in the darkness, indicates that you have insufficient information to make a clear decision. Do your research and do not rush into making choices.
I thought maybe some of this would help you. I have a feeling that your dream means something important but it's up to you to find out what...
Shana
This was on dreammoods.com, I looked under places. Under hotel it says, To see a hotel in your dream, signifies a new state of mind or a shift in personal identity. You need to move away from your old habits and old way of thinking.
Also under Darkness it says, To dream that darkness comes upon you, signifies failure in work you may attempt. Darkness is synonymous with ignorance, the unconscious, evil, death, and fear of the unknown. if the sun breaks through the darkness, then you will overcome your failures. If you feel safe in the dark, then it suggests that you like not knowing about certain things. As some might say, ignorance is bliss.
To dream that you cannot find someone in the darkness, signifies that you need to keep your temper in check. You have the tendency to let your emotions get out of control and lose your temper.
To dream that you are lost in the darkness, denotes feelings of desperation, depression, or insecurity.
To dream that you are groping around in the darkness, indicates that you have insufficient information to make a clear decision. Do your research and do not rush into making choices.
I thought maybe some of this would help you. I have a feeling that your dream means something important but it's up to you to find out what...
Shana